For six years, four months, and five days, Reminisce Smith sat in the Bedford Hills Correctional Facility for Women, a 45-minute drive north from the Bronx, where she was born. Separated from her son, Jayson, and husband, Papoose, she plotted her comeback, studying the rap game. Soon, she came to a conclusion: With the exception of 2Pac, every rapper who served time suffered for it, career-wise, upon release; none found greater success. With social media now allowing artists to  release music and address fans directly, the MC we know as Remy Ma knew she had to start rapping the moment she touched ground.
And so she hit the studio hours after being released from prison on August 1, 2014, meeting DJ Khaled to record the âThey Donât Love You No Moreâ remix. One week later she knocked out a song with Jadakiss. Then a record with Ty Dolla Sign. Then, since it was summer 2014, she touched Bobby Shmurdaâs âHot Niggaâ instrumental. She was 34 years old, without state ID or driverâs license, without health insurance. She had to find a school for her then 14-year-old son, who was living out of state at the time. But she had a plan, and she stuck to it: Sheâd reestablish her music-industry presence before getting her life in order.
âLooking back,â Remy, now 37, says, âI guess it was a good decision.â
There was more to come. In 2015, Remy joined the cast of VH1âs reality series, Love & Hip Hop: New York, establishing a footprint in another medium. She also scored a hit record with âAll the Way Up,â a collaboration with Fat Joe and French Montana that went double-platinum and spawned a slew of unofficial remixes.
But as Remyâs plan unfolded, a clash brewed with Nicki Minaj, the Queens MC who had ascended to rapâs A-list during Remyâs incarceration. Like most rap battles, it escalated from subliminal disses to calling out names. In February of this year, a few weeks following the release of Plata o Plomo, her album with Fat Joe, Remy unleashed âShether.â A savage seven-minute assault on her rival that left few stones in Nickiâs past unturned, âShetherâ peaked at No. 2 on the iTunes rap chart. Remy then went on a press run that, in a way, doubled as a victory tour.
The comeback was complete. But she learned something during the process that left her with a bittersweet feeling. Â Â
âItâs a popularity contest,â she tells Complex over the phone in early spring. âI donât really care about rap the way I used to because there is so much politics. I just do what I do. I write, I talk my shit, say what I want to say, bounce around on the beat, and I keep it moving.â
She added that she feels constrained with the direction of her music. Sheâd like to diversify and address different topics. But she canât, she says, because the public prefers her rapping about certain things in a certain way over a certain type of production. âI actually have some dope records that are actually about something,â she says. âI just never get them close to the forefront because itâs not what people be wanting to hear.â
Thereâs something sad and wrong when an artist like Remy Ma, someone who has survived so much to reach the point sheâs at now, feels boxed-in and unable to express herself in her totality. Throughout her career, sheâs been so stubborn, so sure of what she wants and whatâs best for her. Whatâs stopping her now?
The answer, of course, is money. âIf I didnât have bills to pay then I could do any record that I want,â Remy says. âI do what I do because itâs fun and I love my craft, but this is a business and this is my job. You can go into your job and do the job thatâs expected of you or you can do the job that you want to do. Itâs going to affect your paycheck.â
"I donât really care about rap the way I used to because there is so much politics."âRemy Ma
Remy Ma always had something to say. An honor roll student, she wrote poetry about growing up in the Castle Hill section of the South Bronx. She had a tough upbringingâher mother was locked up for a time, her biological father didnât appear until she was 18. Those experiences led her weighty subjects once she started rapping in junior high. The first song Remy ever recorded was titled âSuicide,â written when she was 13 years old. âDo you think about dying?â she asked on the record. âWhy would you take your own life?â
âIf I were to write that now it would be considered deep,â Remy says in her husky voice. âI never had the bubblegum kiddie-bop rhymes.â
Which is why one of her favorite records on Plato o Plomo is âDreamin,ââ a pensive account of her journey from âCastle to Beverly to Bedford Hills.â It wasnât considered for a single, she says: âIt wasnât radio friendly. It wasnâtâŠwhatever. There was a time when DMX was winning with records like, âIâm slipping, Iâm falling, I canât get up.ââ   Â
DMX was the biggest rap star in the world in the fall of 1998 when he released the meditative âSlippinâ,â from his second album, Flesh of My Flesh, Blood of My Blood. The lyrics are a raw recollection of drug abuse, group homes, crime and reckless, self-destructive behavior. He didnât bend to the forces of the marketplace; he shaped the marketplace.
It was around this time when Remy scored her big break. As the legend goes, one day when she was 17 years old, she bumped into one of Big Punâs friends outside of a Bronx grocery store. Knowing that she was an aspiring rapper, he invited her to Punâs place nearby.
Luxury cars and dirt bikes were parked outside the house as three Shar Peiâs roamed the front yard. Inside, at least 25 people had gathered, and sitting at the center of it all was the 500+ pound platinum rapper Big Pun, on a mattress propped up off the floor, wearing nothing but a pair of boxer shorts. âHey,â he told Remy, âI hear you could rap.â Unfazed, she rapped a 24-bar verse for a hulking man in his underwear.
I inhale the deepest, cock back and bust rhymes at your speakers
Iâm troubled, shoot out the air bubbles in your speakersâŠ
âThat might be the one hot rhyme you got,â Pun said afterwards. âLemme hear something else.â She continued spitting. Â Â
Remy Martin, dash, reminisce, slash
Remy, cash like a check in a stash
Me without rhymes is like a flint with no flash
Stripper with no ass, car with no gasâŠ
Pun then asked if she wrote her rhymes. âI thought it was the dumbest question on this earth, like, âWhat do you mean, who writes them?ââ Remy remembers. Pun then explained that some women rappers at the time used ghostwriters. âI was like, âYouâre lying!â I heard a couple of reference tracks and it really bothered me. I just felt like it was cheating.â
The two versesâwhich Remy definitely wroteâmade her Punâs prized pupil. She fit right in with the boys. âWe were wild and crazy and she was wild and crazy,â says the producer LV. âIf you talked crazy to her, sheâd talk crazy right back.â
Soon, Pun began work on his sophomore album, Yeeeah Baby, in Sony Music Studios, the fabled red brick building in Hellâs Kitchen where Miracle on 34th Street and Shaft were filmed. Pun camped out in Studio E in the basement for days at a time. When he got bored, heâd prank-call Michael Jackson, who was recording in another room.
Remy Ma was present for most of the Yeeeah Baby sessions. Occasionally, Pun would make her rhyme for visitors, issuing a one-word command: âRap!â (Like many women in hip-hop before and after her, Remy spent her formative years in the industry having to impress a room full of men.) For the most part, though, Remy, still a novice at this point, listened and learned. Basic song structure, the importance of concepts and a strong chorus became ingrained in her head. âIf youâre smart, you soak up all that knowledge and Rem did that every single day. That was her dojo,â LV says. âBy the time she got on a record, she knew exactly what to do.â
Pun planned to showcase his new artist on Yeeeah Baby and wanted fans to get that same feeling he had when he sat in his underwear and heard Remy Ma rap for the first time. So he suggested she spit the same rhymes she spit for him that day. The record âMiss Martin,â which features Ma spitting extended verses while was Pun relegated to the hook, made the final tracklist. For the first time, Remy believed she could have a career in rap.
âIâve worked with Big, Jay, Nas, Big L, Pun, Kool G. Rap, and Jada. Iâve worked with a lot of the greats,â says the producer Buckwild. âBeing in the studio with Remy, I had that same feeling.â
What makes Remy one of the most exciting MCâs working today? She is witty and confident and her rhymes are direct, straight to the point. She can rhyme in pocket. Her vocal projection is strong and she has that intangible qualityâpresence, an aura on the mic. More than anything though, there is a fearlessness to her. Â Sheâs never cautious and will not hold her tongue. She wonât shorten her bars or alter somethingâa simile, metaphor, or dope punch lineâbecause someone might get offended. âA pregnant bitch talk shit, Iâma destroy her fetus,â she once rapped.
She also has a knack for big moments, an ability to recognize when a record is a potential hit, which is why her verses on âLean Backâ and âAll the Way Upâ are among her best. And she was always ambitious. âBeing a rapper was a big deal to Remy. Being the best rapper was a big deal to her,â says Sean C, the producer and record executive who would eventually serve as Remyâs A&R. âIt wasnât about being the best female rapper. She compared herself to male rappers. She wanted to be the best rapper.â
When M.O.Pâs Billy Danze thinks about Remy Maâs ability, the first thing that comes to mind is the âAnte Upâ remix. A follow-up to the groupâs biggest hit to date, the remix called for something special, and the rugged Brownsville duo had many options. Prodigy and C-Murder donated verses. They were getting something from Jay Z. But Remy forced her way on it alongside Busta Rhymes and M.O.P associate Teflon.
âWhen I got to the studio one day, there was a blazing-ass verse from Remy Ma on my record,â Danze says. âWe werenât necessarily looking for a female artist to be on the record, but she was able to hold her own in a room full of wolves. There was no way we could pull her off the record.â
Fat Joe took Remy under his wing after the February 2000 death of Big Pun, making her the anchor of his reformed Terror Squad. And the gambit paid off when their record âLean Backâ topped the Billboard Hot 100 for three weeks in the summer of 2004. Afterwards, Steve Rifkind, the founder and chairman of Loud Records and SRC Records, which housed Terror Squad, told Fat Joe he wanted a Remy Ma solo project.Â
"Iâve worked with Big, Jay, Nas, Big L, Pun, Kool G. Rap, and Jada. Being in the studio with Remy, I had that same feeling."âBuckwild
When Remy Ma began work on the album, she demanded full creative control. After all, the album was titled Thereâs Something About Remy, and so she managed every aspect of the process from picking beats to brainstorming concepts. She sat with hitmaking producer Scott Storch (Dr. Dreâs âStill D.R.E.,â BeyoncĂ©âs âBaby Boyâ)  in Miami and came up with the idea for âConceited.â Then she met Swizz Beatz to concoct âWhuteva.â Because she primarily wrote in the studio, the lyrics were married to the beat and concept of each song. There is little rapping for the sake of rapping throughout the album.
She had ambitions for each record, which led to her butting heads with Fat Joe and Rifkind over the song âFeel So Good.â Joe had lined up Mario, fresh from the no. 1 platinum smash âLet Me Love Youâ to sing the songâs chorus. But Remy insisted on Ne-Yo, then an unheralded songwriter best known for penningâŠMarioâs âLet Me Love You.â
Joe and Rifkind wouldnât budge. âShe was adamant about it,â says Rifkind, but he eventually relented. âAn artist has to be true to themselves. Nine times out of ten, Iâm letting the artist do what they want.â Remy won the battle, but lost the war. Def Jam didnât allow Ne-Yo to shoot a video for âFeel So Goodâ because he also appeared on Ghostface Killahâs single âBack Like That.â
âRemy didnât know how to deal with the politics of the industry,â Sean C says, also citing her notoriety for belittling beat makers. âProducers came in to play her beats and if she didnât like it, sheâd say, âNext, thatâs trash. Thatâs wack.â We had to tell her, âYou canât talk to these people like that.â She would just shit on their beats. Some people didnât want to work with her.â
âShe generally has an idea for what sheâs looking for,â Buckwild says of Remyâs beat selection process. âShe is honest. The first thing she told me was, âDonât come in here and play no wack shit. I donât want to hear no wack shit.â Thatâs understandable. You want the producerâs best.â
He then tells the story of a certain producer who arrived with 50 beats for Remy. Unimpressed with his work, she began doodling on a piece of paper in front of her. Eventually she held up the drawing. It was the word âNoâ in big letters and a series of flames. The message was clear: No fire. She told Buckwild afterwards, âHe didnât have anything I liked.â
Remyâs instincts were on point for the most part. Released in February 2006, Thereâs Something About Remy: Based on a True Story received positive reviews, earning praise for its balance of commercial singles, street bangers, and introspective records. But the album tanked, debuting at No. 33 on the US Billboard 200, selling 35,000 records its first week.
Fingers were pointed afterwardsâwith good reason. The label pushed âConceitedâ to radio while âWhutevaâ was still building momentum. The records, of course, cannibalized each other. Remy believed that Universal failed to promote the album or press enough copies. A rift with Fat Joe had also developed. She was eventually banned from the office and dropped from the label.
And then in July 2007, Remy was arrested for shooting her friend Makeda Barnes-Joseph after leaving a Manhattan nightspot; she had accused Barnes-Joseph of stealing reportedly $3000 from her purse. Remy was later found guilty on two charges of assault and sentenced to eight years in prison.
From the moment Remy Ma was released from prison, there was speculation that she would clash with Nicki Minaj. The long-rumoured standoff ended with âShether,â one of the most brutal diss records in rap history, and its tepid follow-up âAnother One.â Nicki Minaj answered on March 9, releasing three new songs including âNo Friends,â which took aim at Remy and peaked at No. 14 on the Billboard Hot 100. Fans of each respective artist claimed victory, with Nicki Minajâs Barbz pointing to âNo Fraudsâ commercial success and Remyâs supporters returning to the superior bars and overall viciousness of âShether.â
âThere are people who will not acknowledge that Nicki lost,â LV says. âThis is a hip-hop battle. Remy wasnât making that shit to get played on the radio. Remy made âShetherâ so that me, you, and Nicki would hear it and think, âThink again if you want to fuck with me.â Records like âEther,â âTakeover,â âBack Downâ were not meant to be played on the fucking radio.â
Remy seemed to appreciate the attention afterwards, taunting her adversary on social media and showing up for her appearance on The Wendy Williams Show as if it were Nickiâs funeral, complete with a veil. âI came appropriate for the services,â she joked. Remy took a different tone during her appearance on BuzzFeedâs Another Round podcast. âI donât regret âShether,ââ she said, âbut Iâm not particularly proud of it.âÂ
The comment to BuzzFeed doesnât mean Remy laments anything she said on âShetherââaccusing Nicki of using ghostwriters, having butt implants, sleeping with other rappers, sniffing coke, and supporting her brother, an accused child molester. Itâs an expression of disappointment that the entire thing happenedâespecially since, like most rap beef, it could have been avoided with better communication. She must recognize that the battle also fed the perception that there isnât room in hip hop for more than one woman on the A-list.
âI said what I said and I did what I did. A lot of peopleâs panties are in a bunch. I think it was a big upset to a few people. But it is what it is."âRemy Ma
After a quiet few weeks, the battle reignited in early June with Nicki Minajâs verse on 2 Chainzâ âRealize,â in which she accuses Papoose of writing âShether;â Remy Ma and Papooseâs publicist said they would not comment on the accusation. Remy saved her rebuttal for the Summer Jam stage. Standing side-by-side with Queen Latifah, Lilâ Kim, Cardi B, Young M.A, Monie Love, the Lady of Rage, Rah Digga, and MC Lyte, Remy performed Latifahâs 1993 hit âU.N.I.T.Y.â before launching into âShether.â Nick Minaj has yet to respond.
When asked earlier this spring if the battle was over, Remy was again reticent. âIt depends. It depends,â she tells me. âI feel like I said what I said and I did what I did. A lot of peopleâs panties are in a bunch. I think it was a big upset to a few people. But it is what it is. Iâve moved on. I donât talk about it no more.â
She is now working on her solo album Seven Winters and Six Summers, said to be a more intimate project thatâll delve into her experiences in prison. The rich subject matter offers Remy a chance to take risks with her art. Why not make a concept album filled with indelible characters about her time incarceratedâOrange Is the New Black meets Prince Paulâs A Prince Among Thieves with a few potential radio bangers sprinkled throughout? The possibilities are endless: A record about how her marriage evolved during her time away. A record about a certain Christmas or Thanksgiving or birthday that was particularly tough. A record about working towards her bachelorâs degree. A record like âSlippinââ about her insecurities and battles.
âWhen I used to visit her, there were times when she didnât really believe,â says Remyâs husband Papoose. âThere were times when she didnât have faith. I would say, âHey people miss you. People love you. People are asking about you.â It become hopeless because appeal after appeal had failed.â
Doing something different takes guts and ambition, and as record sales dwindle and the definition of a hit turns increasingly nebulous, thereâs more room to make weird art that pushes the boundaries of the genre. But itâs up to the artist to create it and turn it into something the public wants to consume.
In the meantime, Remy Ma is pursuing opportunities in television. She was funny and charming during her recent week-long guest hosting stint on the daily talk show The Real. There are also rumors of a Love & Hip Hop spinoff for VH-1 that would focus on her marriage. She doesnât want to rap forever, not when there are more lucrative gigs in front of the camera.
Remy says she had a plan before she went away to prison, an exit point for when sheâd leave the music industry. âThe plan was to retire at 30. That was my plan,â she says. âGod had other plans.â